Phaedo

Outline

1. Why a philosopher shouldn't fear death
a. Why you shouldn't commit suicide
b. What is death? - Dualism
c. The body as obstacle to knowledge
d. The Theory of Forms
2. Does the soul survive death?
a. The Argument from Opposites
b. The Argument from Memory
c. The Argument from Affinity
d. The Argument from Forms
3. The Concluding Myth
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"… Tell this to Evenus, Cebes, wish him well and bid him farewell, and tell him, if he is wise, to follow me as soon as possible. …." (97)

Why does Socrates say this?
"… is Evenus not a philosopher? ...Then Evenus will be willing [to follow Socrates] like every man who partakes worthily of philosophy. Yet perhaps he will not take his own life, for that, they say, is not right. …" (97) 2 Questions: (1) Why shouldn't one commit suicide?

(2) Why should a philosopher be willing to die?

 
(1) Why shouldn't one commit suicide? "we men are in a kind of prison, and ... one must not free oneself or run away." (98)  
"the gods are our guardians and ... men are one of their possessions. …" (98)


(2) Why should a philosopher be willing to die?

 
"the one aim of those who practise philosophy in the proper manner is to practise for dying and death." (100)
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A New Question:  What does Socrates mean by saying that the philosopher is practising for death?

What is Death? "the separation of the soul from the body" (100)

Mind-Body Dualism: the view that individuals are a composite of a non-physical soul and a physical body.
In what way does a philosopher prepare for death? "Do you think it is the part of a philosopher to be concerned with such so-called pleasures as those of food and drink?
By no means.
What about the pleasures of sex?
Not at all.
What of the other pleasures concerned with the service of the body? …
I think the true philosopher despises them." (100-1)   Why?  
The Body is an Obstacle to Knowledge: It is the soul that grasps the truth about things.
  "the soul reasons best when none of these senses troubles it, ... , but when it is most by itself, taking leave of the body and as far as possible having no contact or association with it in its search for reality." (102) Why Should We Believe the Body is an Obstacle to Knowledge?  
"What about the following, Simmias? Do we say that there is such a thing as the Just itself, or not?
We do say so, by Zeus.
And the Beautiful and the Good?
Of course.
And have you ever seen any of these things with your eyes?
In no way, he said.
Or have you ever grasped them with any of your bodily senses? I am speaking of all things such as Size, Health, Strength and, in a word, the reality of all other things, that which each of them essentially is. …
… he will do this [i.e., grasp these things] most perfectly who approaches the object with thought alone … who, using pure thought alone, tries to track down each reality pure and by itself …" (102)


What is Socrates getting at here?

 
The Body as an Evil: "as long as we have a body and our soul is fused with such an evil we shall never adequately attain what we desire, which we affirm to be the truth." (102-3)

We shall never get at the truth about what?  What’s all this talk of ‘the Beautiful’, ‘the  Just’, etc. ?

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The Theory of Forms

For every general concept or property, there is a form which makes particular things possess the concept or property.

These forms are ‘more real’ than anything else.

They exist in a world of their own which we have access to through reason.

They are unchanging, timeless and perfect.

There is an infinite # of them - the form of the good, the form of chairness, the form of the green, etc.

Things in our world are what they are by virtue of the forms those things ‘participate in’

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A New Question:  Does the soul really survive death?

          Cebes points out that many think that "after it [the
          soul] has left the body it no longer exists anywhere."
          (106)

Answer #1: The Argument from Opposites (AKA the Cyclical Argument)

Socrates’ Claim: The souls of the living come from the dead. (107)

P1. "those [things] that have an opposite must necessarily come to be from their opposite and from nowhere else". (107)

Proof: " if something smaller comes to be, it will come from something larger before" and if "the weaker comes to be from the stronger, and the swifter from the slower" and "if something worse comes to be, does it not come from the better". (107)

"So we have sufficiently established that all things come to be in this way, opposites from opposites?" Yes, says Cebes. (107)

P2. "Is there an opposite to living"? Yes, "being dead".

C: So, by 1 and 2, "living creatures and things come to be from the dead". (108). They therefore conclude that "our souls exist in the underworld." (109)

Is this convincing?
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Answer #2: The Argument from Memory

Background - Reference is made to Socrates' idea that learning is recollection (i.e., learning something is just remembering something you in some sense already knew):

"when men are interrogated in the right manner, they always give the right answer of their own accord, and they could not do this if they did not possess the knowledge and the right explanation inside them." (110)

See the Meno for more details.

The Argument:
1. Sometimes perceiving one thing brings to mind another.

2. Sometimes, such a recollection is caused by similar things, other times by dissimilar ones. (111)

E.g., Similar - a person you see on the street looks similar to your friend Thad Weinerman and this makes you think of him

Dissimilar - you see a really handsome philosophy professor interviewed on TV and this makes you think of your present professor

3. One can think about how close the similarity is (and in what respect).

4. How do we do this?

"we see that there is something that is equal. I do not mean a stick equal to a stick or a stone to a stone, or anything of that kind, but something else beyond all these, the Equal itself." (112)

i.e., we draw on the idea (form) of Equality in general.

5. Where did we get knowledge of the Equal?
Not from particular things.
After all, sometimes "do not equal stones and sticks sometimes, while remaining the same, appear to one to be equal and to another to be unequal?"

"But what of the equals themselves? Have they ever appeared unequal to you, or Equality to be Inequality?"

"These equal things and the Equal itself are therefore not the same". (112)


6. "We must then possess knowledge of the Equal before that time when we first saw the equal objects and realized that all these objects strive to be like the Equal but are deficient in this." (113)

7. "before we began to see or hear or otherwise perceive, we must have possessed knowledge of the Equal itself if we were about to refer our sense perceptions of equal objects to it" (113)

"we must have possessed it [knowledge of the equal] before birth." (113)

That is, we must have existed before birth.  Our souls have been around longer than our bodies have.

8. We must have forgotten our knowledge of the Forms when we were born for "A man who has knowledge would be able to given an account of what he knows" and it is not true that "everybody can give an account of the things we were mentioning just now [i.e., the Forms]". (114)

9. Couldn’t we have acquired knowledge of the forms at birth?

But then "at what other time do we lose it? … Do we then lose it at the very same time we acquire it"? (115)
Simmias answers that "he did not realize he was talking nonsense" when he made this suggestion. (115)
Is this convincing?
[Part II of Phaedo notes]
[Philosophy 1200]